Wednesday, December 10, 2008

Pet lovers, draw your weapons:

You need to read the comment from anon 1:48 on THIS older post.

63 comments:

Anonymous said...

If all you want is something fluffy that stays on the floor, get an area rug.

That commenter sounds like he has a low-level job and comes home everyday whipped and desperate to boss someone--anyone--around.

Brooke said...

I think that anon needs to experience the pure joy that is coming home to a dog who is so happy to see you she's beside herself and wears herself out by jumping in excitement, only to curl up on your sofa with you, resting her head on your knee as you read.

I for one have trained my dog that she is only allowed on furniture when there is a sheet or blanket on it, and that she must ask permission to jump up (she kind of sits and stares at me until I say, "Up!"). Works fine for me AND my upholstery.

Brooke said...

I think that anon needs to experience the pure joy that is coming home to a dog who is so happy to see you she's beside herself and wears herself out by jumping in excitement, only to curl up on your sofa with you, resting her head on your knee as you read.

I for one have trained my dog that she is only allowed on furniture when there is a sheet or blanket on it, and that she must ask permission to jump up (she kind of sits and stares at me until I say, "Up!"). Works fine for me AND my upholstery.

Jamie said...

Sounds like anon's been watching a little too much dog whisperer. Although I will say my dog stays on the floor. If she got in the couch there'd be no place for me. She's quite happy next to the couch on her bed.

Kimberly Julie said...

I have one of the most well-behaved dogs you'll ever meet and she sleeps in the bed with me every single night. Honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way. :)

(Decorno, your comment about people vs. dogs made me think of Sartre quote: "Hell is other people". The truth in this statement becomes more and more apparent to me with each passing day...)

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with Anon 1-48 (maybe not in the approach). Just like children, pets need rules and boundaries. Their love comes out of respect. But, that is only my opinion and the way that I run my life. It is not my place or his/hers to judge the decisions that anyone else makes in their life. If you want to let your pets on your furniture it is your world, but my 70 lb dog is staying on the ground just like his ancestors.

CassCass said...

HOLY SHIT. Sounds like one of those animal-trainer-nazis.

I agree, Annon 1:48 sounds like a douche. Makes me think of those asshats that get a dog but leave it chained up outside in a filthy backyard in the winter, rain or extreme heat of the summer to gard his/hers garbage and cinder blocks.

Not to mention said ass-hat compares the dictatorship way he/she thinks treating animals works as raising children too.

Wow. Epic fail.

Anonymous said...

What does Anon think about making out with your pets? I love kissing my little dog!

alia said...

Gross. I thought most of the assholes on the internet were crazy cat ladies too. I guess not.

Blair said...

Ugh! So, I am guessing they wouldn't approve the fact that I woke up this morning with all 3 of my dogs cozily sleeping on my bed:)

corine said...

Grouchy and judgmental. I wouldn't want to be this anon's pet.

Decorina said...

The human gets to decide whether the fuzzy retarded kids are allowed on the furniture. My little dog was raised by others; I got him when he was two. They raised him not to get on the furniture. That and he is the least cuddly dog you've ever seen - snarls and growls if you try to snuggle him. So, by his own choice and training he stays on the floor in the dog zone. That said he has four dog beds in the house and uses every one. I wouldn't want to sleep on a cold floor either. Man, anon, you need one of those robot dogs.

Anonymous said...

"my 70 lb dog is staying on the ground just like his ancestors."

That's just the thing: Your dog is, behaviorally, NOT "just like his ancestors."

Say it after me, Anon 7:41 AM:

"Domesticated"

Great Dame said...

Ok, weapon fully brandished. That amount of rage-fueled condescension is astounding! Makes me suspect that someone's ex took the dog with him when he walked out the door!

In my dog-filled home, the dogs are not allowed on the furniture, but that's strictly MY decision, based on purely practical matters. Our doll-sized house is small enough without having to share the sofa with the Great Dane. The dogs get plenty of plush dog beds right next to us, so they're not exactly suffering.

And for Anon 1:48, a) leadership with dogs is can be earned without being a jackhole and b) the Monks and Ms. Woodhouse, while certainly respected, are kinda dated resources for dog training these days.

Natalie said...

way to fight back ... I am all about the companionship!

Lauren said...

WOW. hahaha my mouth was just hanging open.

Anonymous said...

Raising children is a dictatorship! Yes, they should be allowed to make their own decisions/mistakes but only because you are allowing them to. I am not going to be a parent who lets my child be spoiled rotten because I want them to 'LIKE me'. My children will LOVE me because they will respect me.

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:48 is a total asshole. S/he's like the utter morons I see at the dog park slamming their dogs to the ground trying to make them 'submit.'

An Aesthete's Lament said...

I presume Anon's dogs are trained with a whip and a chair.

An Aesthete's Lament said...

It would depend on the size of the dog, wouldn't it? Though I'd be loath to let a Great Dane climb onto my sofa (if it could even fit), I'm perfectly happy to put down a cloth or towel for a Yorkie, pug, King Charles spaniel, et cetera.

MaryBeth said...

While I don't like hair on my sofa, I have long red hair that sheds like a b*tch, maybe my husband should keep me in my place by sitting me on the floor.

If you don't want a loving companion to share your home, don't get a pet. Most dogs probably stay on the floor, not out of respect but out of fear.

BTW love the get a rug comment. Classic. MB

Anonymous said...

"My children will LOVE me because they will respect me."

Yeah, you just keep telling yourself that.

Anonymous said...

I am a dog/cat owner. My dog plays happily outside during the day and comes in for dinner and sleeps in his own dog bed at night. He is not allowed on furniture because he sheds and smells like a dog. I go to friends homes where dogs and cats are allowed all over the furniture and beds and their houses smell! I sit down and get up covered in hair and it's gross. Some of them have dogs that slobber and that is everywhere too. If that makes me an asshole so be it.

Emina said...

Anon 8:19am....
dogs have been domesticated for about 12,000 years give or take so I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that anon 7:41's dog's more recent ancestors have been sitting on the floor for some time...just a thought.

birdy said...

I tell my dogs not to get up on the couch daily. They, being pugs, ignore me and do as they please.

Anonymous said...

There's a biiiig difference between "those asshats that get a dog but leave it chained up outside in a filthy backyard in the winter, rain or extreme heat of the summer to gard his/hers garbage and cinder blocks" and properly training one's dog.

I, for one, am sick of going to my friends houses only to have their dogs jump on me and scratch my legs. Dogs DO need discipline. They do.

David said...

Nobody likes the way others drive either, but saying something about it just makes you an asshole.

Personally I love my boys on the couch or in the bed with me.

Tara.Fields said...

Guess who won't be having cocktails at Decorno's house. Such ire for something that has not one thing to do with that anon, unless of course said anon is anon because he/she knows you. Ahem.

I'm reminded of a friend who doesn't really like having pets, so she doesn't. She told me once it was partitally due to them ruining the furniture. After she said that we both looked over at her 20-month old daughter covered in and carrying her lunch across the living room carpet to the couch that she got up on using her grubby hands and face. The friend laughed, I laughed, because we know that she can make exceptions to her own "rules" in her house just like I can in mine.

Kids don't eat anywhere but at the table at my house, cats and visiting dgos eat in the kitchen (on the floor)... we all sit on the sofa (usually with a sheet on it).

e. love said...

My Morgan, a Cairn terrier, is welcome on any piece of furniture I own. She is our only child (and i don't mean that in the psycho lady with children who are furry kind of way..). She sleeps in bed with me and loves to nestle between my pillows. She hops up on the sofa and stretches out on my throw pillows.
When I come home, I greet my FAMILY- boyfriend and morgan- and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Nazi-douche bag anons need not apply.

Anonymous said...

I love how because I do not let my dog on the couch, it must mean they are

"chained up outside in a filthy backyard in the winter, rain or extreme heat of the summer to gard his/hers garbage and cinder blocks."

Geez you guys need to chill out!

Sara L. said...

Why even respond to her? Why now give her, her very own post? I wouldn't dignify her comments...not the substance or the bossy intentions.

Kwana said...

Oh my goodness. Cut to me laughing my butt off but nearly crying at the same time. This just kills me. First off anon 1:48 why so angry? what up with that?
The comparison of children to dogs is just apalling.

Next all the cut and dry black and white rules here is what has me shaking my head. Yes, dogs need rules and they should be whatever rules that the owner gives out with love and caring. Not anger.

Children need rules (very different from dog rules anon)and they should be given out with love and caring but with a firm hand too. Not anger.

But all this talk of what definitely WILL happen. Don't count on it. There are no absolutes. Especially with dogs, children and surly not with teens. Take it from someone who knows.

Anonymous said...

"I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that anon 7:41's dog's more recent ancestors have been sitting on the floor for some time"

--Anon 10:33 AM

Those "recent ancestors" might also have been kept outside in 20-degree winters, or fed garbage. Doesn't mean these are traditions that need to continue.

Reggie said...

My darling and most-beloved Pug is not allowed on the furniture unless it is to sit in a lap or snuggle under the covers, and requires permission before being granted. However, being a Pug he expects and is generally afforded immediate access to either (permission? right!). Otherwise, he is not allowed on sofas/chairs/beds (that is, on his own). This simple rule was relatively easy for him to understand when we were training him, and was made acceptable because we have had wonderful, soft and comfy dog beds made for every room of the house, at least for all of the main rooms we "live" in, including the kitchen. Occasionally people come by the house and marvel that we have so many beds for him, but since he's part of the family why shouldn't he have his own comfortable "furniture", too? By the way, since the little guy (and the breed in general) projectile sheds having a Dustbuster handy to vacuum the unbelievable amount of pug hair that still finds its way on the velvet sofa is a must, and it does a bang-up job of it.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:31 AM,

I take your point, but here's the thing. You're only at these people's homes for, what, three hours?

They live there. They're happy, their dogs are happy, they are all enjoying their lives together.

You, on the other hand, can go home and have a nice fur-free life in your house.

And maybe after you leave, the fur-covered, slobber-covered dog people complain about YOU: "She's so uptight, I feel like she's silently criticizing every single thing she sees, I'm so relieved when she finally goes..."

Anonymous said...

"Geez you guys need to chill out!"

As do you.

It's just fabric. Give your dog a break. Enjoy his company. Touch him. Let him touch you.

Anonymous said...

So many of you are missing the point. (but then you are dog owners) when you have a cat their loyalty and love is only given freely or not at all. The biggest compliment I have ever received is the total trust of a cat. The first night we had one of our cats he curled up with our handicapped daughter after she awoke crying. He chose freely to play games with her and sit near her. And he guarded me against big dogs. Only later did I know that it was possible for him to beat up a big dog. Against all that upholstery is but a fleeting memory!!

Anonymous said...

"I, for one, am sick of going to my friends houses only to have their dogs jump on me and scratch my legs."

So YOU do the entertaining. Or everyone meet at a restaurant.

Porter Design Company said...

Anonymous 1:48,
My dog snuggles in bed with us every single night...under the duvet and with his little head on my pillow. I'll leave my bed unmade all day because I know it's more comfortable for him. We wipe his feet when he comes inside (even with the 'good' towels). If he wants a drink out of my glass, I'll give it to him (and then I'll get a new one of course). When I sprinkle parmesan cheese on my pasta, I'll sprinkle some on his food too (because I know how much he likes it).

He is a member of our family and has more personality and love than most people I know....and that's why I named my design firm after him.

Vicki said...

Well, from a totally different point of view, I do advise parents of asthmatic or badly allergic children to not allow the pets to sleep with the kids. Not because of the pets but because their fur can hold dust and pollen and make the kid sicker. I also advise no fluffy stuffed animals for the same reason.

Anonymous said...

Have no pets right now, just three kids. Grew up with pets, though. Hate animal hair on furniture, but can't imagine having a dog and not being able to snuggle up w/ him while watching tv. The endless circle...but life is short! vacuum.

katiedid said...

I must admit that after we got our new sofa for our family room, I tried to keep the dog off of it. It is sort of like trying to keep the new car smell as long as possible right? But I was quickly and willingly overruled by the rest of my family, which btw includes Cooper, my long black hair shedding dog. A vacuum and "dog throw" keep mess to a minimum.

Anonymous said...

Yikes-- Just because someone wants to keep their furniture nice he/she is a "douchebag" or a "nazi?" Because a strong stance against pets is JUST like Hitler's stance against the Jews.

I think anon's point was that a lot of people just go way overboard with the pet thing. "Oh, Trixie thinks she's a human." Well, sorry but no matter how much you want them to be, pets aren't humans. You are free to live your life the way you want, but something needs to be done about the people who assume their dog can go anywhere humans can go...including at my house for a party. With another guest's 1-year old...

boxerlover said...

As I type this my sweet loving boxer is snuggled next to me on my nasty old leather couch that needs to be replaced. If I had a gorgeous home with a brand new couch, I might not be so warm to the idea of her on the couch, but until then she is welcome. She sleeps in a dog bed on the floor though, not to say that I dont let her up there if my husband is out of town but I think she actually prefers her comfy dog bed.

Bottom line...dog rule anon drools

truffles said...

LL Bean? Eck. That part is worse than the pet-hate. LL Bean is good for canvase totes embroidered with tings like NANNY or POOL LIQUOR.

Anonymous said...

My cats are allowed to sit/lay anywhere that I do. They are family! I sure hope that Anon 1:48doesn't have kids, as I feel sorry for them, too!

Maria said...

ouch. "they" sound like mean mommy. hugging the cat a little closer tonight....ON MY BED AND SOFA.

Holly @ Maison James said...

Being thoughtless with pets is very bad karma. My babies are my sunshine -

My 2 chihuahuas are too small to reach the furniture. My ink-black cat has free rein of the house, including the white upholstered sofa (covered with a pink throw).

Gypsy Lynne said...

We try to deter our dog from the couches but let him on our bed for nightly cuddle sessions!! Some people - my mother included - think this is gross but we can't deny him his (and our) favorite time of the day!!

Anonymous said...

"So YOU do the entertaining. Or everyone meet at a restaurant."

YOU train your dog. I'll still entertain.

Anonymous said...

"So YOU do the entertaining. Or everyone meet at a restaurant."

So, are you saying that you would rather stop entertaining at your house than train your dog?

Anonymous said...

Pets on furniture does not mean smelly furniture. It means insufficient housekeeping.

Anonymous said...

Typical of dog owners .... they think everyone must love their dogs! Well, we don't. I don't want to step in their sh*t as I walk out my door (I have the pleasure of living across the road from a park where dogs are allowed off the leash)and I certainly don't want their dog hair all over me, when I visit their owners. So sorry, keep them off the sofas! Obvious!

alis said...

My dog sheds A LOT all year round, and it' hard enough(daily vacuuming) to keep the floors clean enough to see the hardboard. So she stays on the floor, but she always keeps close, either touching our feet, or wanting to be scratched til she falls asleep. She's too big to sit on anyone's lap anyway.

CSS said...

I love pool liquor...Am I the only one? Dammit, I don't have a pool....

Cristina said...

Somebody has to be the Alpha in the pack. In my house it is NOT my dog. To me it's not a family thing although I love her. It's a rank thing because I know for certain that's what she thinks about us.

I love my pets but they only get up on the furniture when invited. Except for the cat.

Anonymous said...

No matter what anyone said, pugs own your world. They deserve to shed at will, sit on the couch and sleep in your bed. What the world needs is more photos of your pug, sitting smugly on the couch. I love those little dogs...

Anonymous said...

I once watched a friends dog consume a dead gopher on their front lawn and a few minutes later he was up on the sofa giving "kisses" to my friend. Yum.

Jax said...

I hesitate to say this, but I agree with not letting my dog on furniture. Clearly this is an unpopular opinion on this blog. That doesn't make it wrong. I feel so sure of my decision on how to raise my dogs that I am going to leave this post with my name...not Anon. We talk about it if you are curious.

I do think the original comment was hostile. Shame, since it seems to have short circuited the message. I have been training dogs for years. My first rule is no dogs on furniture, but this rule is not really black and white.

I think it depends on the breed of dog; yeah they were breed to think differently and do different things so they need different rules. It also depends on your previous relationship with your dog. My 7 year old Boxer (a bully breed) is nearly perfect in her consistency of following her rules in the house. She can afford an occasional invite onto a chair without worry that she will start making her own rules. My 1 year old American Bulldog (also bully breed) can not be given such freedoms yet. Like children, dogs earn freedoms and responsibilities.

There is no reason to spread hate cause I feel this way, and there is no reason to assume that I don't absolutely love my dogs cause they aren't on my sofa. I am respectful of your decision. I hope you feel the same way.

hello gorgeous said...

Actually this makes me laugh because it sounds like my husband when we met. I had always let my dogs on furniture and in bed and he said, "Dogs are for outside and I'd never sleep with one." I thought he was a jerk.

Cue to 6 years later - no dogs in bed due to chronic back pain from the contorted positions leaden pugs force one to sleep in and my husband sleeping on the couch on purpose so he can sleep with the puppy lying on top of him (and you should hear his high-pitched squealing when he gets home and sees her). It's kind of sick. :-)

*He lived in the country and had hunting dogs at some point; not dogs chained to a tree or somesuch.

Jessica Claire said...

my great dane lives on the sofa- that's what indoor/outdoor fabric and shmutzy throws were invented for!

s. said...

My cat sleeps in bed with us, snuggles on the sofa and has been known to drink out of my glass. However, I don't certainly don't presume to imagine that all people who don't allow pets these liberties are bad owners. Different strokes, folks!

ita darling. said...

i guess there are very few buddhist pet owners out there... what ever happened to the middle path of pet ownership? combination of vigilance, discipline and a oh fuck it attitude.

the link to the thread on apt ther. was very enlightening! i just don't think you should have any expensive furniture regardless of animals that you can't afford to fix or replace.

why get a 3000 sofa if you have to worry about it all the time instead of relax on it?

as much as i cringe to use these words- microfiber works great with downy pet hair, it rubs right off- also! i recovered my dining room chairs with a great soft, upholstery grade of sunbrella- the cats can do nothing to it. wine stains are impervious and the cat hair also comes right off!

my cats get their nails trimmed once a month, get a very messy but effective corrugated cardboard catnip scratch pad, get to sit anywhere they want and have been effectively trained with a water bottle not to claw at the wool rug or the tweedy MCM sofa. yay!

though the tweedy sofa does have a few pulls from the training days... oh fuck it.