Friday, January 30, 2009

Darker.




Crappy photos*, but you get the idea. They are actually a little darker than these photos (and the flash) suggests. And these aren't finished yet. In progress.

I'll be in NYC next week while some big things happen. My cabinets, which are piled high in my living room, will be installed. The lighting will go in (lighting I haven't decided on yet which drives me nuts. I need to figure that out tomorrow.) and the room will also be painted. So, except for my counters and the faucet, it will be pretty much done.

I know someone was scolding me in comments a post or so ago, "Floors last! Floors last! Do everything else first and do your floors last!" Look. The floors are already in progress, so no scolding. And why would I put my cabinets in on top of the shitty old non-sanded wood and THEN finish the floors at the end... and stain them? Wouldn't it get on my cabinets? I don't get it. I understand it would be nice to not having "contractors" stomping all over them, but I plan to stomp all over them soon enough anyway. With HEELS on, no less. Plus, look how tiny my kitchen is. Barely two people fit in at any given time, so it's not like a small army of contractors will be treading on the floors. This is modest project and a modest room, as I am sure you can tell from the photos.

I have to pick out some marble tomorrow. What a fucking racket that whole business is. I went to Pental to shop marble, took photos and notes. Called back to basically say, this is what I want what will is cost? And then they told me I can't buy directly from them, I need to buy from a fabricator. Ok, fine. I get it. It's like telling me I need to buy fabric from a decorator. That whole model of selling is so old and broken. I don't understand why they wouldn't just arrange and broker the whole installation and take a cut of that. Seems like a lost service/profit opportunity, but maybe I am missing something. What a hassle. Anyway, I am picking out marble, for fuck's sake, so I really should quit my bitching.


(*And speaking of crappy photos, if you would like to take non-crappy ones, HERE are tips from Paul Costello on taking better photos of interiors.)

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

Me likey a lotty. I just bought an old house and I hope I have hardwoods under the vinyl in the kitchen. Are you at all worried about the kitchen slop showing up on the dark color? I love the dark color, but I have a dark floor in the bathroom and it shows everything :(

Emily said...

The floors usually go in last so that the contractors don't have to be as carful when they paint, etc. Just make sure that they lay a couple layers of paper/plastic/canvas down so that nothing stains or mars and you should be good to go.

I love your floors. I can't wait to see the rest!

Anonymous said...

Nice darkies. I like them. The yellow, on the other hand, needs to go. What color are you planning?

Decs said...

Ha. Yes. The yellow. The yellow came with the house. I never had the energy to paint over it since the whole kitchen was such a disaster anyway.

I am painting it a creamy white. No surprise there. I love me some white rooms. "The Right White" from Restoration Hardware is the color.

Decs said...

Anon 7:34 - you're not alone. There has been a lot of discussion around here (see recent posts) about people worrying about crap showing on the dark floors. I'm not worried.

Ivy Lane said...

Okay.. I am happy..the yellow is going!!! the floors will be gorgeous! I am dying to see what marble you pick..I so want some marble in my house..well..the baths... well..someday!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I am totally with you on the marble racket. It's ridiculous. And I think Pental (and the other marble/granite purveyors) make the fabricator buy the entire slab, even though the fabricator may not use the whole slab for your countertops. The rest he can save for other projects, even though technically you paid for the slab. So when you talk to fabricators, ask them if you in fact purchase the whole slab and what happens to the rest of the slab if it is not used in the process of fabricating your countertops. Of course, all this will be made even harder because the fabricator will not tell you how much the slab cost but only what the final price (slab + fabrication + installation) will cost. So if you have the time and energy, it's worth digging into that issue. Good luck! For what it is worth, we have used two Seattle-based fabricators: Distinctive Countertops (www.distinctivecountertops.com) and Cacallori (www.cacallorimarble.com). Both were fine but one mistake I made when we used Distinctive was not to specify how thick I wanted the counters to be - so instead of really thick, beefy countertops I got really thin-looking ones. I don't think that should be an issue for you with marble (we were using granite in that particular application) but it is worth a thorough discussion with the fabricator about the thickness of the countertop and any edge detailing you want. Good luck - I can't wait to see the finished product!

melissa said...

nice floors!

what brings you to ny? hope you get to have some fun out here

David said...

God, you'll be so excited to get home and see how it's come together. The floors are great. They'll show everything, you'll clean a lot, you won't care. I'm staring at paw prints on mine at the moment, but I know they're just a damp mop away from beautiful.

Decorina said...

Love the dark floors + what David said. BTW, the floor doesn't look like hardwood it looks like fir to me...hard to tell from the photos, though.

You'll love them. I love mine even with lint, dog hair and other types of Agnews (he said he wanted his name to be a household word) that show up against the dark wood.

You're almost there.

Anonymous said...

Pretty floors! I just finished a remodel myself, and did a lot of product scouting on my own. When I encountered the response that I had to buy from a marble fabricator, I just asked them to give me a ballpark figure on the cost per square foot, assuming I had a marble fabricator. I think maybe you can get your contractor to buy for you too? I just remember the actual cost per square foot wasn't all that bad considering the material - it's the fabrication that gets ya!

red.door.read said...

i am definitely in the dark is gorgeous camp.

you must be excited seeing everything move along. congrats.

Anonymous said...

Ditto the reason for the floors being done last. It does make more sense if you can plan it that way, but it is a golden rule that is tired. Enjoy them! Dark is gorgeous!

SH said...

I love them! I would take ALL of the red/orange out on the next coat and try to get all of the planks looking like the darkest ones in your photos....they WILL fade after time. I also agree with another comment regarding the satin finish poly coating...I think it wears and looks better. I am not so into shiny floors, and they are higher maintenance. All you need with satin is a dry dust mop or broom most days.
I went through the same "fabricator" bullshit here in Dallas. I realized it was not really a big deal, because I don't have a wet saw and stone grinding materials....so someone other than my handy self was going to do the dirty work anyway. I did request the leftovers, though. I have odd sized marble pieces that weigh about a thousand pounds
crammed in closets all over the house. I don't use them, but I paid for them and they are MINE!

modernemama said...

Floors first, floors first - otherwise you can't get the dishwasher out if you need to replace it!

Joy Zaczyk said...

THIS is the color I want my hardwood floors. 'Cept we have approx. 2,000ft2 of them and hubby doesn't want to be bothered. :( I will vicariously through you then.

Joy

Amy said...

Here's our "floors last!" story. We didn't do them last, had them restained, waxed, and buffed. Gorgeous shining coca-cola floors. Then our painter came along and made tons of mistakes, had to do lots of corrective sanding, and even though he put down tarps etc, lots of the dust became engrained in the wax. So after paying thousands for the floors, and firing the stupid painter, my husband and I had to strip, rewax, and buff the floors. Ourselves. And my house is all hardwoods.

Anonymous said...

Go a little darker, it will help when the sun hits them, they wont look orange or red. Tell your floor guy to add more of an ebony stain to them.

vicki archer said...

Darker is better, xv.

S. said...

Thank goodness. I saw the yellow with the floors and just prayed it would go away. Yay for creamy white, yay for marble, yay for my kitchen-envy!

Decorno, you are fabulous. Your kitchen is too.

Decorno said...

Decorina - you are right. They are fir. I always say "hardwoods" when I mean any kind of wood floor. I never really thought about the difference, you you are right, that fir is a soft wood. Very soft. Pieces of it are coming off in chunks on the stairs. Oy.

Little Lantern said...

The floors look gorgeous!

With regards to the marble: that is so weird! I can point you towards 5 different places here in SF where you just buy the slab from the tile/slab shop and then you have to hire the fabricator to pick it up and install it. All of the marble slabs that I've seen which are a little over the standard 90" long run under 500 bucks. There's got to be somewhere up there where you can buy it direct. I can get more specific on the fabrication costs if you need me to.

Do we need to figure out how to ship you a slab from SF?!

PS Are you doing Carrera or something else? I forget.

Decs said...

Carrara.

Decorina said...

Fir is OK, it is softer than oak, but it is typically what was used in kitchens - and then it was covered up with original linoleum in the 1920's (after WWI). But it is fine - and if you've seen Burn After Reading (movie) you can see some lovely very very old floors in a fancy multi-million dollar townhouse in Georgetown, DC with floors (especially on the stairs) that are very scarred and very dark and very very beautiful.

Your kitchen will be fab. Oh, and about the lighting - it is regrettable but true that as I've gotten older I need and want more and more light. When I can't find exactly the right fixture I just have the contractor leave a j-box with a cover. Then, you can visit Hippo Hardware down in Portland and look through the thousands of period fixtures that they have and find something unique. Don't let the contractor pressure you to put something there - in this small space it has to be right. And I doubt that you need a fixture with 3 bulbs unless the space will double as a surgery!

Cote de Texas said...

Elaine - don't fret, you actually did it in exactly the right order. of course your floors should be finished before the cabinets go in. just have the contractor cover them with paper.

BUT, I can't get over how gorgeous your floors came out - I'm sure you're motivated to do the whole house like this now, you should! They are absolutely beautiful - great job, girl! A+ I be proud of ya.

Decorno said...

Joni - thank you. I was so excited to discover them.

I am off to go pick my marble slab, inspired by you, really (your kitchen counters are amazing).

Anonymous said...

If you decide to cover the floors before other work is done in the kitchen please give them a couple of days to fully dry or cure or whatever poly/varnish needs to do. We learned the hard way. The floors may seem dry and hard but trust me on this one.

Susan said...

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