Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Bathrooms.


So, Big Jim, Seattle's Favorite Plumber, and David Bethlahmy, owner of The Periodic Table (a construction firm so nice he has letterpress business cards, for the love of God!) came to Chateau Falling Apart (my house) today. They walked through all the plumbing fixes we need in the basement, plus looked at our two bathrooms that desperately need repair.

David told me I could easily spend $40k on my upstairs bathroom.

That's more than my kitchen! No way. I just refuse to believe this. I mean, I am sure I could spend that much, but I have no plans to do so.

Anyway... here we go again. We have to do something to that bathroom, just not $40k of something. (I mean, we need that money to buy potatoes and other supplies for the great depression.) So, I need to figure out what exactly I want to do and get more people in here for bids. 

So, here are inspriation photos I am parking here to show my better half. If you have ideas, thoughts, rants, loves/hates about bathrooms, let's hear 'em. Did you recently remodel? Any tips or tricks? Did you do it yourself? Do you have any bathroom pet peeves? 



You know how I love an all-white room.




Too craftsman-y for me. But I do like the sinks. 




During the kitchen update, I got a lot of push from people to do a tile border. I don't like unnecessarily complicating tile. But if I had to go fussy, this would work. Pretty. Still not me, though. Although I may go marble again for the counters because marble makes me h-a-p-p-y.




Love the floor tile. Although my bathroom is not roomy enough for this get-up. 
Still.. love the white-room-ish-ness of it all. 



Thought I liked the floor tile, but I think I just changed my mind. 


That chair + that table = pure porn. 




We're ripping out that godforsaken tub and putting a shower in where the toilet was. We're going to have to do some sort of glass shower-door action. Maybe like this, kinda sorta. But what do you guys think of these showers? What are these called? Rain showers? I do not like. It just feels like God is peeing on your head. Water drips down your face, etc etc. Yuck. Let me know what you guys think. 



Those floors! The tub! Pure joy. 





Note to self: Do not uplight the toilet. Just don't.




Sexy paint color, yes. Sexy copper plumbing, yes. Hipster light, not so much. 
Awesome floors, check. This is a happening bathroom. 
I think I need wood floors in my bathroom.




This is a mirror story, right here. If we bump out the door-side wall as David the Letterpress Business Card Contractor suggests, I can get more counterspace, which is a good thing, and I can have sink in a cabinet (vs the pedestal I have now) and I can hide my tampons and whatnot underneath and then I won't need a medicine cabinet and then I can have a real mirror, maybe an antique mirror, and that would be lovely. 


This sink is sick. Love it. 

75 comments:

paint it. black. said...

Hi - we did a bathroom remodel about two years ago. My husband is an architect who can actually build things so he did almost all of the work himself. I did a lot of holding things for him. We spent about $10k and I think if we'd paid retail for all the fixtures and hired a contractor in it could have easily been $25k. We paid for guys to come in and install the tile (2 full walls) and the stone floor, which including the cost of the tile was the biggest expense but so worth it because they did a beautiful job, just flawless. At the time I had a hard time with how much it all cost because it was my first remodel and ended up in tears a couple times. But now, every time I go in that bathroom I just love it.

p.s. it's our only bathroom and it took about six months to complete. Husband rigged up an outdoor shower which I loved. And we had a rental portable toilet, which I hated and which ultimately got the job wrapped up at the end when I just couldn't take it anymore.

Heather said...

I actually have a double shower just like the one in your pic. Just finished a huge NYC renovation and we had a small bathroom so we had to get creative. We tore out the tub and did a double shower with glass. We did not do the knee wall because it would have closed off the room. We did exposed Waterworks shower things, with the rain head. I thought I hated the rain head too but its not bad. My husband and I stand there chatting with each other while we shower. Its very cute. I can send pics if you like. This bathroom is one of my fav rooms in the house. hhitchc@yahoo.com

slag said...

"Note to self: Do not uplight the toilet. Just don't."

You'd think this would go without saying.

Dig the wood floors in the bathroom, but practical?

Anonymous said...

Toilet - $500 for elongated tall version

Grab bars for senior citizen - $380

Oak vanity - $400, because it was at an outlet

Vanity top -$195 composite

Hanging cabinets - 2 x $198 oak

Shower base - $295

Tile - $28 x 6 + $150 trim tile

Tin tile - $158

Shower Tower - $400

Floor - $78 (vinyl)

Solid panel door - $298

Around $3700 for a tiny bathroom. I'm happy I did all of the work myself. I'm proud I didn't put in a bathroom that does not belong in this house ($40k in my area of the country is 1/3 the value of your home).

I am not a tile guy and I should have paid somebody to do that for me. I hate my shower basin (shiny white vinyl).

I don't like mirror cabinets (they get messed up every time you get ready).

I would send you photo evidence of what not to do but my bathroom is a sty right now. I'm not sorry.

Emily said...

I <3 most of those photos.

Also - in a little bathroom I like interest on the ceiling. Maybe that's just me.

If you're going to try to hit that $40k mark that Letterpress Man likes: Body Sprays. :-D

ita darling. said...

This will probably make some of your readers come after me with hatchets and flaming torches, but f**k it.. have you seen some of the amazing wood grained tiles lately? I went to the international tile show when i worked for a design firm and i was in AWE of their beauty- and practicality. or- maybe consider tile in a herringbone pattern?

i am so sad for all of your remodeling woes! i wish i could offer more advice than aesthetic wish lists!

ita darling. said...

PS. Dear Heather. We dont want to see pictures of you and your husband showering together. I do however, want to see this Waterworks marvel.

Anonymous said...

two years ago, we remodeled a bathroom in a rental in montreal.

12" clearstory windows on one wall to let light into the windowless room ($300), a glass door ($150) on barn door hardware($300) again for light, window film ($50) for privacy, white subway tiles 24" from floor to ceiling on 2 and a half walls($2.25 a square foot), 12"x24" mat cobalt blue tiles on floor and lower 24" of three walls ($7.50 a square foot), mirrored wall ($500), soaking tub ($800), rain shower and minimalist hardware ($600), pedestal sink ($200), toilet ($200), hospital track hardware and ikea hack shower curtains with customized border and grommets ($200), ikea kitchen bars for towels and glass door for linen closet (under a $100). lighting ($75), fan ($400). that's under $5000 PLUS labor for plumbing, electric, paint, and construction. we did the whole remodel (1000 sq ft) for $50,000.

yeah, you could spend $40,000 on the bathroom or on a cocaine fueled bender in las vegas. neither is necessary. it will require time and shopping/sourcing and creativity but if you spend more then $12000 -15000 and don't live in a $700,000 home you won't get it back on resale.

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tracey said...

NO to a tile border on the walls- old fashioned. But, what looks nice is white tiled wall (you can buy the cheapest tiles), stonish type of floor tiles, mosaic (in the same hues as the floor tiles) along the border of the floor and then take it up on the full front of the bath. Enough, cheaper and gorgeous.

Dakoota said...

Classic Collection!
I Buy Lights

Anonymous said...

if you go with clawfoot tub - have the old feet brass-plated while the floor is being redone - you will never be sorry you did this and it does not cost that much -

*moggit girls said...

"don't uplight the toilet"

Classic.

Tamisha said...

$40K??? Wow, that's a third of my total house! Not work it unless your house is in the million dollar range.

We redid our smallish 1950s bath last year and it cost us about $4K. We have a large linen closet and a medicine cabinet so we went ahead and put in a pedistal sink. We reglazed the tub rather than wrestle one into a tight squeeze. We ripped out the old tile and replaced with subway. Replaced the toilet. Put up bead board and repainted. It's not pure white, but it is cool and spa like and in keeping with a 1950s ranch.

You can see the whole process here:
http://tamishasartspace.blogspot.com/2008_05_01_archive.html

Jamie said...

I finished remodeling the bathroom myself six months ago (which was immediately followed by the kitchen and every other room in the house). Most of that 40k is plumbing and construction. The easiest way to limit costs is to leave fixtures in their place. But since you have to redo the plumbing, take a deep breath and chalk it up to the joys of old house ownership.

I did everything I could to avoid tearing down walls and moving plumbing. I tore down a soffit and found the walls had been built up around the tub 6-8 inches away from the original walls. to avoid redoing EVERYTHING I ended up leaving old tile up and keeping the cast iron tub--just had them reglazed.

Did a lot of the work myself--had someone help with the tile floor. To avoid resheetrocking the walls and tearing down plaster I skimmed the top part and put up beadboard to hide imperfections along the bottom 1/2. While I would have LOVED the $1500 sink console I just couldn't spend that kind of money. In all I finished the bathroom for $1600.

hello gorgeous said...

Those letterpress cards don't come cheap. Every time I have ever considered involving a general contractor it always costs 4 times more than if you just handle it yourself.

If you are changing the geometry of the room and moving walls, I can't really advise.

Clawfoot tubs are nice-looking but entirely impractical, imo. We have one. And a cloying stained glass window. :-)

In the master bath, we have a rainhead showerhead in the shower (limestone, glass-enclosed) but it's on the ceiling and has a separate knob so you can operate it separately from the regular showerhead. Oh, it also has steam. There's a bath with jets next to it. The people who lived here last did this bath. It's still small and efficient and hotel-y. I love it. I don't know why people think bathrooms need to be so big.

Now. Why are there critters in your attic? They have a product that you plug in and sound waves are supposed to drive them away. You may want to try it.

Bethany said...

In regards to the double shower with the open door- The problem with this is, it lets steam into the bathroom with no containment, so it gets very steamy very quickly.

Also, wood floors are beautiful, just be careful about water damage.

And last- if you plan on having kids, you will need a bathtub and not a deep claw tub. You can use a kitchen sink for a while, but from ages 1 to 3, you will have to bend over a tub and help the kid wash, so you will be stooped over a lot of the time. If you have to have the claw tub and that is your only bathtub, it is doable, just know your back will not thank you :).

Anonymous said...

Advice(and remember how much you're paying for it)
Rainshowers look great but hard to take a shower without washing your hair(never thought of that when I put one in)
Tile border-dont waste the money
Wood floors in bathroom...I have done this with great success and failure. The wideplank that you indicate you love are not lapped or meant to butt up tight to each other and as a result will trap stuff in between...even if you seal the heck out of them.
Tongue and groove flooring will work if you seal with marine paint or similar....BUT if you have young boys around proceed cautiously! I finally had to give in and go all tile with three little boys! Good luck..love your tears...it'll be wonderful. Keep us posted!

Mrs. Limestone said...

I lurrvve my rainhead shower. Its like being at the spa everytime I have a hose down.


I couldn't agree with you more about uplighting the toilet. Why??

woobycat said...

The uplit toilet is hysterical - the better to see that amazing floor.

I'm so with you on white for the master bath. Nothing looks better than a squeaky clean see of white.

We redid both bathrooms last year. Indulge me while I throw out some random observations.

HansGrohe shower components get a big thumbs up from me in terms of great value and great looks.

I used a basket weave tile floor - but in marble - stunning, I die. Great way to get your marble freak on.

Rain showers - bad for the ears. I'm serious, the direction of the water causes water to settle in the ears. I have significant hearing loss in one ear so that was not happening.

SALVAGE - I got a gorgeous marble counter and drop in sink for FREE because someone was throwing it away.

A word on shower doors - proper installation is key. If the doors settle and rest against the bottom frame you will soon be forced to lift it up slightly as you open it. I know many, many people in older houses who have hinged doors that did this. If the hinge is on top of tile, not an easy fix.

LLove said...

do NOT go with a dark paint color. you will have so much trouble figuring out what you really look like. your makeup will always look off (read dragqueen) and the lighting will have to be harsh. don't do it...no matter how sexy you think it is. it will make you unsexy.

Anonymous said...

If you have only a fixed shower head, rain head or otherwise, when you want to clean the shower, you can't rinse out the corners. You need to add a hand held shower head. Gets into all the nooks and crannies.

tulipfrills said...

The uplit toilet? Reminds me of an airport runway at night!

modernemama said...

Have no idea how much it cost but this recently renovated stylish white bath has a gorgeous marble floor, cute sink/vanity plus there's a post on lessons learned during the process!

Anonymous said...

I love tile that looks like a wood floor, especially when you lay it randomly. Love all the white!!!

Anonymous said...

Yep, time for a second bid (and a third). $40k is outrageous, even for Seattle.

glurf said...

I love your site and love your taste in bathrooms. We redid our only bath last year. You can see photos here:
http://renovationwars.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-unveiling

The traditional elements like the wood cabinet (blech) are thanks to my husband, who doesn't have quite as good taste in baths. But I do love it, especially the marble tile.
It was still ungodly expensive for such a small space, but it doubles as our laundry room and is our only bath, so I guess 8K was well spent. And we had to have our pipes re-done too--and they were embedded in our concrete slab, so talk about expensive. We saved a lot of money doing the demo ourselves and had a great contractor who found a reasonable sub for the plumbing work. Another good way: price compare everything online. I've probably saved thousands on materials that way.

Emily said...

yeah, rain showers aren't great. My parents have one in their fancy bathroom... I prefer the one I have in my cheap Boston rental, and that's saying a lot.

Queen B. said...

i wonder what paint color is in that very first photo ????

AlexisW said...

Another vote for the wood-grain tiles. My sister in law put them in her bathroom reno and they're fabulous. They also allow you to install radiant floor heating, which is generally incompatible with wood floors.

My high-level advice is not to compromise. Saving $300 on a vanity that just doesn't work for you isn't much of a savings if you plan to be in the house for a while.

More practical advice: get the right ventilation/exhaust fan for the space (err on the side of too much rather than too little), look into salvage and antiques to save money and create a unique look (vintage credenzas can make beautiful and practical vanities), and assemble as much of your materials as possible before demo.

Most importantly, listen to your gut and document EVERYTHING with your contractor and subs. If something feels hinky, don't let yourself be swayed by a low-ball bid or too-good-to-be-true promises. Withhold a sizable chunk of the payment until after the punch list is completed. State clearly, in writing, the hours during which subs may be in your home. Include a completion date in the contract and, if possible (many contractors won't go for this), penalties for delays not caused by your change requests or unavailability of materials.

Good luck! A beautiful new bathroom is truly a thing of joy.

Susan said...

We have done several bathrooms lately. I've learned a few things.

Consider a basketweave mosiac (small tiles). Also consider a custom made medicine cabinet. You could design your own--and they are so useful--and I love how ours look.

If you are considering an antique style footed tub--look at what Sunrise Specialty has to offer. They make the best (cast iron) and most authentic.

puck said...

I just finished Phase One of our bathroom project. It was an emergency project since we discovered horrible damage under the vinyl. So we delt with the emergency first. I have the clawfoot tub and other stuff coming up next.

My projects are very budget oriented since I am unemployed.

Get the skinny here:
http://cottageofstone.blogspot.com/search/label/master%20bathroom

Saga said...

The JFK runway bathroom is fascinating. Is this in Dubai?

Is it just me, or does it look like the (sad, pathetic) sink drain is not connected......

ellen said...

these inspiration photos are fab -- thanks so much for sharing! Love the sinks in the photo with the red striped runner -- finally, useful sinks that aren't cabinet mounted.

Lauren said...

Yes to price checking online, but do the feel test in person. Baths are tactile places, so you want to make sure all your fixtures feel good. Also, (as you know from your kitchen redo) customer service is crucial, and might be better in person than online.

I dig all these pictures and comments though. This is why you have the best blog ever, Decorno!

Anonymous said...

You read Door Sixteen, right?

www.doorsixteen.com

Although I think she is a little mod for you...she has just redone her bathroom and the ideas she came up with are great..and translate very well to many styles.

From the inspiration shots...you want Carerra, Polished Nickel, and an oversized mirror..seems like you are drawn to sconces, and a touch of black as well.

CP

Jennifer said...

it goes without saying that you can save a ton by doing it yourself, but we won't be doing the ENTIRE thing ourselves next time. it turns out that my husband hates laying tile and thus put it off for MONTHS.

have you looked into any salvage/second-hand type places for materials? we have a local place called Southeastern Salvage that has everything from building materials to patio furniture deeply discounted. they usually have stone remnants easily big enough for a bath vanity. when we do the next bathroom I'm going to ask about the delivery schedule and check in as often as I can. or make friends with an employee who will pull something aside if what I want comes in. just a thought!

your inspiration pics are great and I love what you did with the kitchen so I'm sure it'll be pretty. good luck!

Iheartfashion said...

Don't hire a guy with letterpress business cards, beautiful though they may be.
I love the herringbone wood floor in a bathroom. Whatever you do, don't use marble on the floor. I did a bath with claw foot tub and chocolate brown marble floor and it looked beautiful, but just try stepping out of a high tub onto a super-slippery floor. Lots of bruises.

marf said...

i'm loving the craftsmany bathroom sinks. can you provide info on where to find the pedestal part of those sinks?

Jenni said...

I'm actually still in the middle of a bathroom renovation, doing it all ourselves. Our plan is a lot like Tamisha's. We spent the majority of our money (about $3000) on plumbing (there were collapsed pipes below our foundation). I also had my heart set on a cast iron tub, till the plumber told us he would charge us $1500 just to rip out the old and install the new. We are reglazing instead and spending our money on a nice toilet (take a look at the Toto brand) and fixtures. If I had any other advice...tiling is not as easy it looks. Hire someone who knows what they are doing and save yourself some heartache. :)

My Favorite and My Best said...

if you have amazing natural light in your bathroom you can still have the dark walls. my bathroom walls are black but the natural light in there is pretty great, so it works for me. those are really beautiful photos though. i love the one with the stripe rug and basket under the sink, and of course the jenna lyons one, it was my inspiration for my bathroom.
xoj

Suzy said...

Ahh! Almost every single picture makes me want to demolish our bathroom and start all over again.

Great collection of images!

Anonymous said...

what color is your hair? are you a neat freak? If you have dark hair, you will HATE white floors. TRUST ME.
We did marble countertops, and dark wood floors. love.
agree 100% about rainhead showers. waste.

Anonymous said...

wood floors - a previous owner installed that cheap wood parquet tile in the bathroom, and it looks surprisingly awesome and has worn well, though we've not examined the corner behind the clawfoot tub too carefully. but I would go for it - they are at least 10 years old and most like 25 years old. very very nice on the feet and of course never cold.

tile installation is incredibly expensive if done by someone reputable (and unfortunately I don't know anyone who hasn't lived to regret a DIY or cheapo installation unless it was something pretty small and idiot-proof like a backsplash). for a period house, think about using beadboard or that wallpaper that's made to look like tin paneling in areas of the bathroom that just need to resist damp but won't have to deal with water.

your house is old. I would say $40K is based on his assumption that you have expensive taste from your blog, and that this does NOT include all the upcharges that are going to reveal themselves for structural work. so you can be enterprising about the materials and fixtures you choose, but you have no idea how crappy the situation is going to be when you open up the walls and floors (what's underneath the bathroom? are you ready to remodel that room when they realize that the joists need to be replaced and ceiling has to get replastered from all the cracking caused by reinforcements? projects creep!) honestly I would not be dreaming too much about fancy finishes and details (even though that's more fun) but focus on finding out how much it's going to cost to get the bathroom functional, that you don't have a good foundation in place is really scary for determining a budget. a lot of excellent details can be added later and in the short term you get another bathroom with a generous dose of white paint. and if it turns out to be cheap, you have all that nice money set aside for carrara marble and waterworks taps.

Anonymous said...

Decorno, back away from the Carmenere and listen to me. In addition to do it yourself (the contractor who rolled up in a tricked out Range Rover isn't getting the nod, is he? Nor should Mr. Letterpress) the other half of saving money on Labor and Materials is "Materials" and to that I say never pay full price. Buy things at salvage yards. Buy leftover tiles and marble from jobs that didn't get used (for who cares what reason). Buy special orders that were never picked up. Home Depots in NYC have departments for this (although FL does not). You can buy your stuff for very very little. It does require research and, sorry to say, footwork. None of this stuff is online. Most of it is dusty. You won't be able to get exactly what you want, but you can get something you like, maybe love if you're lucky. I renovated quite a few apartments this way.

Anonymous said...

I had our contractor build a vertical vanity. It's basically a built in shelving space with deep cubbies. I use vintage metal locker baskets for the drawers.
My bathroom is small (old shotgun house) so this storage solution has worked beautifully. Wall mounted sinks make the room seem so much larger.

Emily said...

Those bathrooms are gorgeous - I'm swooning as I type this! Though the uplit toilet has me kind of worried about its owners.

from the right bank said...

Chateau Falling Apart - I love it! Our bathrooms are fine but seeing these photos makes me want to redo them. I love every single one.

Cindy M. said...

Hi. We just finished renovating our bathroom. It took a year as we decided to pay out of pocket and not run up a tab! (Thank goodness.) My favorite elements in the room are a river rock shower floor- (beautiful way to bring the outside in and a foot massage every time), gooseneck faucet, a built in nook in the shower for soap & shampoo that's tiled with dreamy, expensive tiles (but we only needed 9)so I got a touch of luxury and it makes me happy every time I grab the soap. celadon glass tile accents, 16 slightly rippled square glass blocks in the window which lets in the most beautiful diffused light as the sun sets. And our mason installed 2 marble shelves in the corner of the shower so I could rest my foot while shaving. Very handy! Bottom line: a couple of expensive touches go a long way in a small bathroom. Thanks for a great read every day and beautiful images and awesome humor! Also remember a sqeegee for the glass shower doors. Rain shower head? Yes I chose that because I love the look, but if you like your morning blast, it's not it. I do happen to like the calmness of it.

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Cindy M. said...

Oh yeah one more thing. A salvage (free) glass paned door from a very old house with the original chipped paint and glass still in place. It doesn't lock but man, it's cool.

Cindy M. said...

I can't help but post one more comment: The reason for the one year time line is that we did discover structural and plumbing problems, so after we spent almost our original budget fixing that, we closed the door for awhile (at least relieved to know the ceiling wasn't going to collapse) before completing the superficial details. But during that time I was able to scope out materials and sales and did find wonderful stuff as other readers have suggested-in the basement of the stone yard, and from our carpenter neighbor who had remnants from very expensive jobs (hence the nook in the shower). The mason was expensive but worth every penny for quality. Thanks again!

nanceliza said...

What you need:

Clear glass shower doors, built-in seat (a must-have for shaving legs, at a minimum), recessed ledge for shampoo, etc. I don't want to see photos in six moths with your Head & Shoulders sitting on the seat! Also, ditch the rainhead for a wall-mounted spray plus a hand-held spray. Don't make the shower too big or you'll never stay warm...

Figure out where you will stash your blowdryer and put an outlet inside the cabinet. Makes life so much easier. Ditto for outlets in cabinets for dustbuster (hate hair on the floor), electric toothbrush, phone charger, make-up mirror.

White, white, white for all fixtures (maybe biscuit or ivory but that is it!).

nanceliza said...

Oooh one more thing- if you are installing cabinetry, you can get a warming drawer. Ours is by Dacor and is designed just like the kitchen type, but shallower to fit in a vanity. We set ours on a timer so the towels are toasty warm by 7 am. As my kid says, "Nuthin' better than hot buttered towels!!"

K.Line said...

We gutted a tiny bathroom upstairs last summer. We didn't choose expensive materials (though they are very tasteful) but spent a lot on good work and splurged on a frameless shower (along an angled wall, cost a lot). Cost 17 K when all was said and done. Could easily have cost 25K. But 40 seems quite high. You'd have to gut the room, use great craftspeople and use really expensive materials too.

Anonymous said...

Hi Decorno, we've used Johnson Brothers Construction here in Seattle for our kitchen/bathroom remodel - they're pretty inexpensive and generally on-time & on-budget. Oh, and they warranty their work for a year, which is nice. JAS Design-Build is a little more expensive but their work is impeccable. I have a whole list of Seattle contractors and subs (from a moms' list-serv I belong to) - I can only speak to the work that Johnson Brothers has done, though friends that used JAS seem really happy with them. The list of contractors & subs is just that - a list - you'd have to vet them yourself... Let me know if you'd like me to email it to you...

Sacheverelle said...

When I gutted/remodeled my bathroom, I was told that in order to have those big rain showers, body sprays &/or multi-head showers work well, you need xtra powerful water pressure & that you can repipe with 3/4" supplies which is more $$. That's IF you're already planning to repipe anyway. I have kids so I opted for a Grohe handheld with like 5-6 settings.
But hey, now's your chance to use that hex tile you were thinking about for your kitchen.
That sink in that last sink is pretty freakin amazing.

Anonymous said...

The uplit toilet made me LOL.

We remodeled a bath a couple years ago for roughly $35K. It turned out pretty well, but here are my mistakes/lessons learned:
1) I used stone on the floor AND the tub surround, which I regret. Soap scum + stone = permanent yuck.
2) Do not buy Ann Sacks fixtures. Our tub/shower diverter thingy is already not functioning and the bath is less than 3 years old. It is beautiful, but it already doesn't work, which really chaps my ass knowing what we paid.
3) This is kinda' gross, but I'd think twice about buying a low water/enviro-friendly toilet. We have a dual flush Toto, but...how do I say this politely..."solid material" tends to hit the sides of the basin and the flush does not always wash it away. It is totally gross and I'm constantly cleaning dried poo from the damn thing.
4) If you end up with a custom vanity, have a professional designer create your design. Our contractor spec'd out a design for ours, which looked okay on paper, but looks very DIY now that we are living with it.

Anonymous said...

Never uplight a toilet.

SPOTLIGHT IT!

FAAAAAAAABULOUUUSS!!!!!

Anonymous said...

JAS Design-Build.

YES.

CJP said...

We did a bathroom 2 years ago. Cost about 10k, but we moved walls, plumbing, etc.

Happy things:
-Our fan control has self timer on it. Hit a button for time, then it turns itself off.(it's made by Lutron) Love it. It's truly the little things.
-Toto toilet. Ours is one of their modern styles and oddly enough it is one of the most complimented things in our home. We don't have a dual flush - which might help us not have poo issue noted by other post.
-Handheld showerhead option is also fantastic for washing kid's hair in the tub if that is in your future.

akimbo said...

I am currently in the middle of remodeling both of our bathrooms. Almost done with the first; the glass shower door went in yesterday, and I just have to put up shelves, towel rack, and paint the door and doorframe. My contractor is an old-school guy who does everything--EVERYTHING--himself. Electrical, plumbing, drywall, tile, you name it. He does let me do the purchasing of some materials, and do the painting, in effort to keep some costs down. I am going to end up spending about 25K for two bathrooms, between his fees and my purchased materials. I thought I could do lot of it myself, but boy am I glad I hired someone who knew what he is doing. And having one guy, instead of a stream of different contractors for different parts of the job has been wonderful. He knows everything about the project and what need to integrate with what else, and plans for parts of the project to fit together in a very practical and common sense way.

We had a grout leak in one shower that was going into the wall, and the other bath had bulging wall tiles and the water was down to a trickle; so we knew this would be a major redo. This was totally about the deterioration of the bathrooms, not just to make them look better. (Although don't even get me started on the previous owner's taste on decor!) Gutted everything down to the studs, jack hammered out two layers of tiled shower pan, found termite damage, treated termite damage, re-worked plumbing, redid some electrical, put in all new hardie board and drywall, glass block windows, new tile, new tub, new hardware and fixtures. Today he was mudding the second bathroom walls, hopefully tiling those next week.

I splurged on a couple of things; we did nice tile/cheap sink in one bathroom, and cheap tile/nice sink in the other. Put in little wall niches for shampoo, etc., love them. We are putting in new lighting in second bathroom; there was a bad 1970's dropped ceiling with fluorescent lighting that we redid with recessed lighting and dimmers. We put in two sets; one for vanity only and the other set for the rest of room. It looks so glam--even though it is made from basic fixtures.

I bought some of my tile from Hakatai tile; 3/4 inch glass tile that is about a third of the cost of bisazza, you can do custom blends that you create online, and their customer service is great. I also used plumbersurplus.com for buying fixtures, sink, a great Kohler vanity, and other stuff. Their costs averaged about a thirty percent discount from retail and had items I couldn't find in stores.

It is expensive--but I only plan to do this ONCE. I want it done right, and I am willing to spend the money on the labor and materials to do it properly.

Good luck with yours--it is not fun or cheap, but I can say that I smile everytime I walk into my new bathroom and see my pretty tile, and having a shower that actually works seems beyond amazing to me right now, as I had been going to work out at the gym four or five times a week just so I could get a decent shower. How's that for pathetic!

Laura Trevey said...

Ahhh.... If only I could have a bathroom like any of those!!
maybe I can just Paint one!!
~~ Laura :)

holly said...

Decorative tile on the walls? NO.
Additional expense and I don't know that you get the value out of it.

I still like the color that comes from the greenish subway tiles and the look that gives. My friend did a bathroom with an old huge vintage peely mirror against the wall and it's all white with peely silver and mercury glass accents, a touch of pink and the subway tile green....It's LOVELY.

Also, wood on floors? Think about all of the humidity and water and maintenance on wood floors in a bathroom? Doesn't make sense to me unless aesthetically you just can't live without the LOOK of wood floors- but I'd go white tile of some sort. It's economical and I'd rather put my money elsewhere than into the floor (and toilet).

As far as all of these free standing NEAT looking sinks? Lovely in a photo-I don't know about you but where do all of your PRODUCTS GO? I am a lotions and potions whore so that would not work for me in the REAL WORLD but it does look nice in a photo.

That, along with a clawfoot tub. If I could have the clawfoot tub I'd be the happiest girl. LOVE EM. But if this is your primary bathroom maybe it doesn't make sense.

My friends bought old/reclaimed tubs, sinks and hardware for their projects- craigs list, ebay. Then you can have them sprayed for your bathroom.

Keep it simple- the floors and the walls- put money into the light fixture or sconces and the vanity/sink.

j9 said...

I would recommend leaving the wall and having a custom vanity made with a vintage mirror.

j9 said...

I would recommend keeping the wall in place and having a custom vanity made with an antique mirror, it will more than make up for the pedestal sink. Plus it will save you money since it will be MUCH cheaper than moving a wall with plumbing in it - or even one without.

There are some smallish wall hung vanities you could look at. Duravit has a fairly small one although I'm not sure the quality is that great but there are sure to be others out there.

I heard EXPO (Home Depot) is closing and there may be some deals there if you have one nearby.

Forget about hiring a guy with letterpress cards, he can afford them since he charges $40,000 for a small bathroom reno.

I'm still giggling over the uplit toilet photo.

mary said...

I do know that bathrooms do need to be cleaned..so anything simple, elegant, restrained (and easy to clean) with great art and an awesome chandelier would be just great for a long soak in the tub. Works for me.
(personal favorites-clawfoot tube with sink with nickel plated shelf). Mary

g. said...

ok, a little late for the bathroom party but just wanted to add this. Do you have a Habitat for Humanity Restore anywhere nearby? If so, check it out. Many builders/contractors/tiles shops donate everything from cabinets and fixtures to hardware and tiles they have left over from jobs. I found amazing tile for my bath the swanky tile shop in town donated(they probably found it under an 18kt gold crate in a warehouse collecting dust) and did the entire bathroom for $78.00. Priced it later for kicks at it would have been $2,600 for the tile alone-no labor!!!

erin said...

oh, so many lovely spaces. the double shower is my favorite. but i know what you mean about rain showers. i wanted one forever, but now that we have one in our new apartment, i liken it to being spit on...your pee analogy works well too...but the water pressure in those babies looks like it might do!

Anonymous said...

Dear Decorno - I'm renovating a bath myself right now. We had a bad mold problem (old house, no exhaust fan) so we had to do some repairs for our health and install a fan and get rid of the mold. We had the budget to do about two "pretty" updates. I'm having the tub re-glazed and re-grouted - the sides - every inch of it. It's an old tub worthy of saving. I'm also re-tiling the floors using penny tiles (love) but in a fresh green/gray color instead of the classic white. Whatever you do, NO WHITE FLOORS - I could never ever keep my white tiles floors clean with a shedding husband and soccer playing son. My contractor who got a super deal on Walter Zanger white marble that he put in his bath is regretting it big time. Unless you have a daily cleaning person - just say NO. I know you will be tempted given your love of white.

Anonymous said...

Just say no to wood floors in the bathroom. You could probably get away with it in a powder room, but I wouldn't put them in any room with a shower and tub.

We had them in the only bathroom of our 1917 bungalow and eventually covered them with white hexagonal mosaics with black grout. It turned out wonderful and was a huge improvement over the water-stained, almost warping wood flooring.

Sacheverelle said...

Wood flooring in a wet area need a resilient waterproof finish. I've read good things about Waterlox, a tung oil based varnish for boats.

http://www.amazon.com/Waterlox-Original-Sealer-Finish-Quart/dp/B000215LSI

Probably what I will be using if & when I refloor my kitchen in hardwood.

Tess said...

Beautiful and adorning bath décor pictures!! Home depot has a great collection of bath decors.

Frameless Shower Door said...

All frameless shower doors come in several different styles. Frameless folding shower doors can be single or double action, it is up to you. But if your door is to open in just one direction it is crucial that it swings outward into the bathroom to prevent the user from becoming trapped inside.

glass cleaner said...

I'm remodeling my family room (25 x 15) for $40K which includes a new masonry fireplace, wood floor, closet bar and other amenities. Suggestion: Buy as many fixtures on-line as possible and find a reputable independent contractor perhaps via Angie's list. My guy came from the Czech Republic 20 years ago and has many connections with various trade experts that may not speak English who are looking for work. His work is impeccable. Thanks for the beautiful pic!