Saturday, February 20, 2010

A few things to discuss with you:



1. Let's talk about this lamp (image pilfered from HouseBeautiful.com). There's a problem here, right? I don't like it when I can see so much of the... what do you call it? You know what I am talking about. The shade is short. It's like the lamp is wearing clamdiggers or something.

Is there a rule of thumb about this sort of thing?





2. "I like to do this myself at least once a year. Take every last loose piece on every surface — photos, vases, candlesticks, books, magazines — whatever is cluttering up your vision and chances are you no longer even see. Put them on a counter in the kitchen, then redeploy in new arrangements. But only use half of them. Put the rest into a closet for a free shopping spree the next time around." -Jamie Drake

I am totally going to do this. One of these days, anyway.



3. It was sunny today. SUNNY. And warm-ish. First day we mowed the lawn since god knows when. Sun + early cherry blossoms + smell of grass = total bliss.

62 comments:

Naomi's Blog said...

It's like sausages - dont show me the gory bits... lamps dont suit the gstring thing. full bloomers thank you!

rebecca said...

I think the lamp rule is that the switch should be just obscured by the bottom of the shade. This one has that issue and a weirdly long connection between the switch and the base. It is wearing clamdiggers. Does this mean it's a summer lamp?

As far as the second idea goes, it sounds good except I don't have anywhere to store that which wouldn't make the cut. It's display or die in my very small world. Still, it's a good reminder to shake things up, to see things not as they are but as how they might be.

LB said...

I'm with you on the lamp. I always feel like the lamp is a little exposed - like I've seen a girl who doesn't realize her crack is showing.

boops said...

1. it's the lamp version of a "what were they thinking" outfit. the proportions look wrong to me.
2. totally great idea! can't tell you how many times I can't find something that is right in front of me because there's so much crap lying around.
3. spring is coming...just need to hold on.

holly goes lightly said...

shade is too short & too narrow. crikey that looks like absolute crap. and such a great lamp. not sure there's a rule, but perhaps just consistent application of some common + design sense (as in most other things).

Sharon said...

I, too, strongly dislike when the lamp switch shows and isn't covered by the lamp shade. I have learned that going to a lamp shade store and having your lamps fitted for shades is a very good thing. It is like being fitted for the right bra, but for your lamp.

The Zhush said...

One of these days I intend to do that as well! (and I don't like the lamp's switches showing all that "leg" either) Very jealous of your springy weather and blossoms...very.

Isabella & Max Rooms said...

I have a "rule" about where the shade should hit on a lamp base: the bottom edge of the shade should sit just above the start of the stem. If the bottom of the shade is too low the lamp looks stubby, too high like this photo...it looks silly.
Just my "rule", curious if there is a real one!
Janell

Anonymous said...

I like the lamp, or I would like it if I were into the mod style or whatever it is. But the stem showing is fine. But you don't usually look at a lamp straight on anyway. From above the long shape keeps the bobbles in view.
2. Great idea. Just the thing to cram more crap into my attic.
- Jean

Bloggers Abode said...

I think the word you're looking for is the dreaded "Capri pant" and yes, lamps of a certain vintage and age should never wear them. Especially when you have "cankles" as the bulbous yellow area is suggesting.

Decorina said...

The "neck" (the silver extension above the yellow part) is too long. The shade is too short. It looks ridiculous. Like high water pants that shrank in the dryer...capri pants is too nice.

little augury said...

The shade is way to high, some may say there is no rule, but I say decorum please-don't live your messy works out for public inspection- cover up at least 2inches.

Anonymous said...

You just need a new harp. (The gizmo that suspends the shade above the bulb.) All you have to do is slide the little sleeves up an pinch the arms of the harp together and it comes off. Target and most hardware stores sell them at different lengths.

David said...

I call it the neck. I don't know if theres a rule of thumb, but it looks like too much showing to me.

All my loose pieces are still boxed up, one day when this place is all done and I can pull things back out it'll be like Christmas morning.

Enjoy your sun. We have freezing rain and inches of slush on the roads. Combined with the Olympics, I now want to move to Vancouver.

Shoshana said...

Sure, I agree but tell me did you see this week's Habitat Column? I think it would pass your scrutiny

Holly said...

Never show the mechanics -- cover up that stuff. The shade is too narrow and perched too high, like a goofy hat that's too small for the head it's on. And it needs a gorgeous, taller finial. Lamps without them don't look finished.

Anonymous said...

Jamie Drake is brilliant. He gets the reputation for doing-over-the-top work, but he's in fact exquisitely disciplined.

VelocityJohn said...

Oh that's tragic. That lamp could be rocking with a proper sized shade, and a line of yellow, black, or grey detail on the shade towards the bottom would be nice. Back in the day, Jonathan Adler used to have the reverse problem as this lamp. His shades were WAY too large for the tiny bases. It's all about balance right?

hush said...

I'm glad you said what you thought was wrong with the lamp, Decorno. I concur. My main problem with it is was my first impression - that the base kind of resembles bright yellow anal beads.

Anonymous said...

It's easy to see why the proportions are wrong. Cut and paste the image of the shade lower down and see how much better it looks. Basically the harp is to tall for the lamp base

Lisa S said...

Very true on the lamp, it looks like it's slip is showing. Nice lamp, though.

penelopebianchi said...

I have always observed that the shade should end right at the bottom of the stem. That looks quite atrocious! I think the term is "pedal pushers"! Quite unbecoming to almost every figure!

2.I just read that idea about recycling your accessories! Excellent idea!

Nick Klaus said...

Have to agree with what others have posted: The shade is a couple sizes too small.
I wish that I had enough accessories to make #2 practical. I'm not anti-accessory, I'm just fastidious about keeping things clutter free.

Fancy for nyc said...

I definitely agree with everyone, the socket should be kept hidden. For a lamp like this, with so many great details, I would like to see a more longer and simple shade and a finial that matches the metallic base.

As for spring...not getting here soon enough, in nyc we have another snowstorm coming this week :(...I'm booking a flight to the Caribbean!

Anonymous said...

I agree, it shouldn't show - and I just bought a nice lamp through a designer catalog and when I put it together, has the same problem. I'll have to find a lamp store and buy a shorter harp. There seems to be a lack of finesse in all but the highest priced lamps out there. And BTW nobody under the age of 30 that I know seems to even know what a harp is.

maison21 said...

shade should cover the socket completely, and never so low as to cover any part of the body of lamp. i personally like to have about a half inch to an inch of stem showing (stem is the bit- usually metal- between socket and lamp body).

Ivy Lane said...

You don't like the shaft showing??

red ticking said...

the socket should never show. the shade should come down far enough so it is in proportion with the rest of the lamp. width, height etc...

and the weather today??? OUTRAGEOUS ... we are so fortunate to have had the most wonderful week...
lets pray for more next week... x

mary said...

Yes, the neck is way too long; the switch should never show...but the real problem is that the lamp is fugly.
With all of the beautiful lighting available, how did this particular lamp merit being in House Beautiful?

John said...

Lampshade is too short. I don't think you should see the bulb socket it just looks like you could not afford a bigger lampshade.

When I edit my spaces what I don't keep goes to my baby sister or my mother.

We had warmer weather past two days, but snow is still on the ground. I am beginning to think about my redesign for plantings so when spring comes I know what needs divided and where it's going.

Sacheverelle said...

That shade needs to be bigger all around.
I think only 1"-2" of the neck is supposed to show.

Kelly@TearingUpHouses said...

1. No no no no no. JUST NO.

2. Yes. To both the editing and the free shopping spree. I should try that.

3. I hope you were outside?

Kelly

dcgirl said...

I'm too lazy to get up off my couch and dig through magazines, but I am almost certain that Domino had a spread on how to measure the different parts of your lamp to determine how tall and wide your shade should be. I think they also addressed the style and shape of your shade based on your lamp base.

And if it wasn't there, it was definitely Martha, cause that hooker has a rule for everything.

Quatorze said...

All that stem should definitely not be showing. The shade should, ideally, just skirt the join of the stem to the base when viewed on the level. A situation like this is usually the result of a disconnect between the lamp designers and the people who fall in love with a trendy shade, regardless of its suitability for the lamp in question.

Many lamps can be rewired with a faux candle sleeve topped by a two-light swivel cluster so a shorter shade can be used; the candle showing is more acceptable than the stem. This, of course, depends upon the style and design of the lamp, some lamps just cannot be retro-fitted and some were just plain poorly designed in the first place.

Finally, a good shade house should steer a client clear of a poor shade choice, explaining the reason why as well as providing an appropriate alternative. Sadly some clients, including many designers, are both clueless and obstinate, a situation for which there is little remedy...

penelopebianchi said...

Hi anonymous Feb 21st at 2:07!

HA!! No kidding! No one under 30 knows what a "harp" is!

I am just hoping that in another 10 years: anyone under 30 knows what a "lamp"is! Way way way too much "can lighting"! Unbecoming to everyone of any age (including infants) and spreading everywhere like swine flu! Swiss cheese on the ceiling!!!!!!!! AWFUL!!! Architects! Cad! All of it!!!!!!!!! Whatever happened to "atmosphere"?

I'm 62 and it's showing.......I am just having a fit about many things. I'll just keep it up until some hideous wallpaper throws me over the edge. On my tombstone........."Where the hell is the dimmer?"

I'd like that!

Penelope

ps some famous decorator said that....(about the wallpaper).....but I forget who. Hope she died that way! (or he!)

Bonnie said...

Poor lamp shade has a case of "flood pants." ;)

The Down East Dilettante said...

I have a wonderful pale green lamp from the 1930's in inventory right now. It has an even longer neck, finished in the same color as the pottery of the base. I spent an 45 minutes, with completely open mind, trying on shades of every description with this one, shorter harps, longer shades, slope sides, strait sides, anything. It's now at the lamp guy's, have the neck shortened. In other words, I agree.

The Down East Dilettante said...

oh, just saw this---you don't publish comments with the acronym for 'laughing out loud' (notice I avoided it)? I think I love you!

Kwana said...

I agree on the lamp. It's like the neck is too long. Very gawky. Point 2 is a good idea must get on that someday and as for 3... wish these piles of snow would scooch out of the way.

Newell Turner said...

Yikes! Decorno, where did you dig that up on the HB website? Everyone posting is right. The lampshade is totally out of scale with the lamp (way too small) and then there's that shaft. One should never show one's shaft show, at least in polite company.

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traci zeller designs said...

I use the term "high waters!"

Libby said...

Yes yes yes there is a rule. And there are 2 at war here. The "mechanics" of the lamp are not to show: the base of the shade should extend to the top of the neck. This lamp is a little tricky for us in that the neck is long, so that calls into effect the second rule: the shade needs to be larger. Scale is one of the hardest concepts to grasp in decorating; I can say that because I learned it the hard way (embarrassment). An oversized shade is much less noticable than one that is too small.
You probably weren't looking for that intensity, but lamps are a sore spot with me.

dewfamily said...

a) your first 23 comments are some of the best reasons that i read your blog. i didn't realize there were so many decornified ways to talk about the phallic resemblances of a lamp. always an education here at decorno.
b) we share this beautiful city, and i too have been delighting in these cherry blossoms all week. i'm definitely buying one for my yard after this week of sun. those pink flowers are better than rohypnol in forgetting the last two months of crappy weather.

urban flea said...

i actually love that lamp, the color in particular, but i know what you mean about the proportions. hope you have a great week!

xo urban flea
http://www.urbanfleadesign.net

Anonymous said...

No one under 30 should know what a harp is. If you're under 30, you should be spending your days getting laid. You can worry about harps when you're middle-aged.

Eliza Coleman said...

Ahh I have to second "hush" and say that aside from the neck and proportions issue, it reeeally looks like anal beads. Yikes.

Sue said...

"You don't even have to know how the stock market works." Umm... not sure there is any other appropriate response except to say WTF?

Thank you, anonymous, for reminding me that spam is in fact, the reason I get up in the morning.

Anonymous said...

I can see the lamp's wiener. I am a little appalled.

Harp On Design said...

I think it was an ancient Chinese proverb that said, "I love lamp."

penelopebianchi said...

It is pretty funny when your blog sparks comments this funny!
I have comments on the comments!

(surprised?)

1)Anon Feb 22nd 12:52 (are you sure you can't do pseudonyms.....or nicknames or something?) Sheesh!

Decorno.....you allow ads? Wow.

2)Anon....Feb 23rd (My birthday!!) 5:26 am....
Too funny!!! You obviously do not need an income!
Good for you!!!! I hope you thank your Mother....... (or your father or grandfather....or someone!! Bravo!!!) Have fun! I DID worry about shades in my thirties! and my twenties! It paid off!!!!!!!

BTW I am extremely impressed that Newell Turner (the nicest guy you will ever meet).....and the Style Director Of House Beautiful...... wrote you and was not pleased with the lampshade. That guy has his hand on the trigger.....or gearshift....or something very important. I LOVE HIM!!!!!!!! What a winner. As are YOU! Decorno!!!

PEnelope

Meander said...

A) I TOTALLY agree with you! Its like those people that have giraffe necks or something, honey cover that up with a scarf yo!
B) Jaime Drake is my boyfriend and I heart him BIG TIME! Great idea, too bad I'll never actually get around to doing it.
C) Glad you have warmth! We have snow. . .again! Last time I checked I lived in the south, but whateva!
Ciao!

Anonymous said...

"I DID worry about shades in my thirties! and my twenties! It paid off!!!!!!!"

But how much did you get laid, Pen?

Penelope Bianchi said...

Dear anonymous......feb 25th 6:15:

Oh dear! I wouldn't want to embarrass you; you poor pitiful thing! You are such a sweetheart! What a big heart you have!

Good thing you remain "Anonymous!" Good decision!!!

Good luck in life!
Wish you the best!!!

Penelope

Anonymous said...

Thank you Pen. You answered my question.

marianne said...

Clamdiggers! That's exactly it.

"Many lamps can be rewired with a faux candle sleeve topped by a two-light swivel cluster so a shorter shade can be used; the candle showing is more acceptable than the stem."

I'm not entirely sure what this means, but it sounds naughty.

Quatorze said...

If this sounds naughty, then you need to get out more...

Penelope Bianchi said...

Quatorze wins the "best comment awards" on this post!

1) Sadly some clients, including many designers, are both clueless and obstinate, a situation for which there is little remedy...

2)If this sounds naughty, then you need to get out more...

Totally true and;
so Hilarious!!!

Quatorze said...

I blush.

allthingsrosie said...

great tip from Jamie Drake - I need to that!

Anonymous said...

just too anal beads-y for me, is all

Penelope Bianchi said...

Jeez!
Get the message......61 comments?? You need to be blogging!

I watched the "State of the Union"; went out to dinner with my beloved husband.....have hundreds of emails and went straight to you! 61 comments! Yikes! The message is clear!

It is called the "stem" of the lamp; and we do not want to see it. that lampshade is way too short. 40 years I have been doing this......there are a few rules I abide by......(because they make sense) this is one of them. ewwwww!

Penelope aka "crazy pen"

welcome back.......welcome back again.
can't wait to read all the other comments tomorrow!
You must not leave us again! get it?